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		<title>Comment on Bristol decides by Steve Willis</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/bristol-decides/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2012 22:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this really is a No Campaign, I would have thought the lack of prior consultation due to the non or misdelivery of the council&#039;s leaflet might be grounds for having result declared null and void. 

Is anybody going to; (1) complain to the Electoral Commision or who-ever has the power to void the result, (2) call for an investigation into why so many council leaflets were not delivered?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this really is a No Campaign, I would have thought the lack of prior consultation due to the non or misdelivery of the council&#8217;s leaflet might be grounds for having result declared null and void. </p>
<p>Is anybody going to; (1) complain to the Electoral Commision or who-ever has the power to void the result, (2) call for an investigation into why so many council leaflets were not delivered?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bristol decides by Mick Broggio</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/bristol-decides/#comment-133</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick Broggio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2012 19:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Our campaign is now over ..&quot; - but it never got started! 
No posters to download, no organisation apparent - I wonder whether it was a front set up by the Yes campaign to divert the opposition.

&quot;Bristol has made a decision and voted for an elected mayor. We respect that decision.&quot; I certainly don&#039;t - 53% of 24% when large parts of the city never even got the council&#039;s leaflet. If this happened in a third-world country, there would be widespread condemnation of the lack of democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Our campaign is now over ..&#8221; &#8211; but it never got started!<br />
No posters to download, no organisation apparent &#8211; I wonder whether it was a front set up by the Yes campaign to divert the opposition.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bristol has made a decision and voted for an elected mayor. We respect that decision.&#8221; I certainly don&#8217;t &#8211; 53% of 24% when large parts of the city never even got the council&#8217;s leaflet. If this happened in a third-world country, there would be widespread condemnation of the lack of democracy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Don&#8217;t Know? Then vote No! by Steve Willis</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/dont-know-then-vote-no/#comment-124</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 18:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just back from voting no to a directly elected mayor.

One other thought came to me on the way to the polling booth; under the current set up the voice of dissent has an equal vote with those proposing. I believe this will be lost under the directly elected mayoral system.

I voted also no for a number of other reasons I&#039;ve articulated elsewhere, namely:

I do not like the additional costs involved, the lack of a recall and more importantly the lack of consistent consultation across the city in advance of the referendum. There is an established legal principle that those in authority must consult with those directly affected before making a decision – I’m not convinced this has happened in advance of the referendum and I’m worried consultation by a directly elected mayor may also prove to be poor. 

I suspect if previous Lord Mayors were sticks of seaside rock and we snapped them in two we’d find the word “Bristol” running through them. My big worry is if we snapped a directly elected mayor in half we’d find no mention of Bristol and just the words; “Me! Me! Me!”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just back from voting no to a directly elected mayor.</p>
<p>One other thought came to me on the way to the polling booth; under the current set up the voice of dissent has an equal vote with those proposing. I believe this will be lost under the directly elected mayoral system.</p>
<p>I voted also no for a number of other reasons I&#8217;ve articulated elsewhere, namely:</p>
<p>I do not like the additional costs involved, the lack of a recall and more importantly the lack of consistent consultation across the city in advance of the referendum. There is an established legal principle that those in authority must consult with those directly affected before making a decision – I’m not convinced this has happened in advance of the referendum and I’m worried consultation by a directly elected mayor may also prove to be poor. </p>
<p>I suspect if previous Lord Mayors were sticks of seaside rock and we snapped them in two we’d find the word “Bristol” running through them. My big worry is if we snapped a directly elected mayor in half we’d find no mention of Bristol and just the words; “Me! Me! Me!”</p>
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		<title>Comment on The £1 million cost of an elected mayor by June Gibson</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/the-1-million-cost-of-an-elected-mayor/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>June Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 02:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope Bristol will reject an elected Mayor.  I am a born Londoner.  I am sick of the expense for what is an ego trip for whoever is elected as figurehead. to a load of non-elected highly paid team of advisers. It is for good, as we can&#039;t abolish the post. Our Mayor&#039;s advertising budget exceeds that of the PM&#039;s office, I am told.  The cost of the election every (four in our case) time will escalate as time goes on.  Our CT has a surcharge on annually for the Mayor/Greater London Assembly. So far big business and property developers have been the ones well-looked after. The obsession with more infrastructure means that we live in a huge permanent building site. More smoke and mirrors...  more bread and circuses....no sign of austerity cuts in this branch of public spending!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope Bristol will reject an elected Mayor.  I am a born Londoner.  I am sick of the expense for what is an ego trip for whoever is elected as figurehead. to a load of non-elected highly paid team of advisers. It is for good, as we can&#8217;t abolish the post. Our Mayor&#8217;s advertising budget exceeds that of the PM&#8217;s office, I am told.  The cost of the election every (four in our case) time will escalate as time goes on.  Our CT has a surcharge on annually for the Mayor/Greater London Assembly. So far big business and property developers have been the ones well-looked after. The obsession with more infrastructure means that we live in a huge permanent building site. More smoke and mirrors&#8230;  more bread and circuses&#8230;.no sign of austerity cuts in this branch of public spending!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Bristol under-perform? Pt 3 by The Bristol Blogger</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/does-bristol-under-perform-pt-3/#comment-117</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bristol Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 17:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell no. It would involve disagreeing with the current consensus, which would involve a mountain of criticism.

Personally I favour vouchers and free schools but that would put power in the hands of me, a parent, wouldn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell no. It would involve disagreeing with the current consensus, which would involve a mountain of criticism.</p>
<p>Personally I favour vouchers and free schools but that would put power in the hands of me, a parent, wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Bristol under-perform? Pt 3 by bristol</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/does-bristol-under-perform-pt-3/#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>bristol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 10:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A less misleading comparison with Bristol could be with the so-called core cities – http://www.corecities.com&quot;

But the core cities are Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, Newcastle, Nottingham and Birmingham - and of course Bristol.

All of whom are included in the charts.  And all of whom are not under-performed by Bristol on the three measures highlighted.

You appear to be criticising the No campaign for the quality of our evidence which we have at least attempted to provide when responding to claims by the Yes campaign that Bristol is under-performing and will &quot;stagnate&quot; if we don&#039;t vote for a mayor, claims for which they provide no evidence at all.

There are a considerable number of other examples of how well Bristol is performing, for example it is the only one of the core cities whose GVA is considerably above the national average, it has the lowest per capita carbon emissions of any of the core cities, it has the lowest percentage of the workforce with no qualifications, it has one of the best records for successful new business creation, and so on.  We chose the three measures above because deprivation and unemployment have a direct impact on the well-being of those residents impacted.

It is, of course, entirely up to you how you choose to vote on Thursday.  But please compare how we have tried to provide factual evidence with the utter lack of factual evidence provided elsewhere to support the claim that Bristol is under-performing.  Our attempts may not be perfect but we have at least tried.

Bristol is not perfect,by any means, everybody criticises their local council, and Bristol City Council do merit a lot of that criticism. However the Yes campaign should not try to scare people into voting for their Mayor by implying that the city is under-performing and will stagnate if we don&#039;t follow their advice.  Especially if they are not prepared to provide any real evidence to demonstrate this is the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A less misleading comparison with Bristol could be with the so-called core cities – <a href="http://www.corecities.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.corecities.com</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>But the core cities are Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, Newcastle, Nottingham and Birmingham &#8211; and of course Bristol.</p>
<p>All of whom are included in the charts.  And all of whom are not under-performed by Bristol on the three measures highlighted.</p>
<p>You appear to be criticising the No campaign for the quality of our evidence which we have at least attempted to provide when responding to claims by the Yes campaign that Bristol is under-performing and will &#8220;stagnate&#8221; if we don&#8217;t vote for a mayor, claims for which they provide no evidence at all.</p>
<p>There are a considerable number of other examples of how well Bristol is performing, for example it is the only one of the core cities whose GVA is considerably above the national average, it has the lowest per capita carbon emissions of any of the core cities, it has the lowest percentage of the workforce with no qualifications, it has one of the best records for successful new business creation, and so on.  We chose the three measures above because deprivation and unemployment have a direct impact on the well-being of those residents impacted.</p>
<p>It is, of course, entirely up to you how you choose to vote on Thursday.  But please compare how we have tried to provide factual evidence with the utter lack of factual evidence provided elsewhere to support the claim that Bristol is under-performing.  Our attempts may not be perfect but we have at least tried.</p>
<p>Bristol is not perfect,by any means, everybody criticises their local council, and Bristol City Council do merit a lot of that criticism. However the Yes campaign should not try to scare people into voting for their Mayor by implying that the city is under-performing and will stagnate if we don&#8217;t follow their advice.  Especially if they are not prepared to provide any real evidence to demonstrate this is the case.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Bristol under-perform? Pt 3 by Ratty</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/does-bristol-under-perform-pt-3/#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Ratty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 08:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What the charts on this site show, is that those Northern industrial cities that do have mayors do not significantly out-perform even those cities nearby.&quot;

To a Bristol resident the charts are clearly meant to show Bristol&#039;s wonderful performance. And, as such, they&#039;re misleading. 

&quot;Doncaster does not out-perform Sheffield, Middlesborough does not out-perform Newcastle.&quot;

Comparing Middlesborough and Newcastle is a very rough comparison, and misleading again, as is Doncaster and Sheffield. Both Newcastle and Sheffield have well established universities, for example, that means they attract and retain a better educated population.

&quot;For Bristol, there is no real comparison – Cardiff?, Plymouth?, Reading?&quot;

A less misleading comparison with Bristol could be with the so-called core cities - http://www.corecities.com

There are comparisons to be made but at best these graphs show us nothing useful and at worst they&#039;re misleading.

I&#039;m broadly anti mayor but &#039;evidence&#039; like this makes me wonder - if this is the best we can find to demonstrate the success of Bristol then maybe we do need a mayor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What the charts on this site show, is that those Northern industrial cities that do have mayors do not significantly out-perform even those cities nearby.&#8221;</p>
<p>To a Bristol resident the charts are clearly meant to show Bristol&#8217;s wonderful performance. And, as such, they&#8217;re misleading. </p>
<p>&#8220;Doncaster does not out-perform Sheffield, Middlesborough does not out-perform Newcastle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Comparing Middlesborough and Newcastle is a very rough comparison, and misleading again, as is Doncaster and Sheffield. Both Newcastle and Sheffield have well established universities, for example, that means they attract and retain a better educated population.</p>
<p>&#8220;For Bristol, there is no real comparison – Cardiff?, Plymouth?, Reading?&#8221;</p>
<p>A less misleading comparison with Bristol could be with the so-called core cities &#8211; <a href="http://www.corecities.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.corecities.com</a></p>
<p>There are comparisons to be made but at best these graphs show us nothing useful and at worst they&#8217;re misleading.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m broadly anti mayor but &#8216;evidence&#8217; like this makes me wonder &#8211; if this is the best we can find to demonstrate the success of Bristol then maybe we do need a mayor.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The £1 million cost of an elected mayor by Mr Bristol</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/the-1-million-cost-of-an-elected-mayor/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Bristol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 08:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the CBA? Are we spending £1m to save £5m, for example? Apparently having a Mayor in Leicester has reduced costs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the CBA? Are we spending £1m to save £5m, for example? Apparently having a Mayor in Leicester has reduced costs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Bristol under-perform? Pt 3 by Tony Dyer</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/does-bristol-under-perform-pt-3/#comment-109</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony Dyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 07:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has education even been mentioned during the campaign by any of the prospective candidates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has education even been mentioned during the campaign by any of the prospective candidates?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does Bristol under-perform? Pt 3 by The Bristol Blogger</title>
		<link>http://bristolsaysno.org/does-bristol-under-perform-pt-3/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bristol Blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 19:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They might. It&#039;s the only way I can see the city can move away from its stifling political consensus on education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They might. It&#8217;s the only way I can see the city can move away from its stifling political consensus on education.</p>
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